Comments on: The Details of My Defamation Case https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Tue, 02 Jun 2026 23:21:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Sonder Thoughts https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-26794 Wed, 31 Oct 2018 02:38:17 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-26794 In reply to Richard Carrier.

This is the absolute best route to go. Making companies or the content controlling parties aware of the fact that they need to be more cautious and factual in their published/public posts. I hate to see someone get ringed for it.. but its time for Americans to stop being ignorant, and getting right to the root cause is the best way to do it. You can try to take down the author, however they are but one, in a sea of drowning sheep. If you take the Shepard out to sea, and make him see his drowning sheep.. Then we start getting somewhere. We can only hope the ignorant world has not turned these Shepard’s dumb, and seeing all these drowning sheep will turn on the light, sending them on a new path towards sweet,dry land.

I absolutely love your work Mr. Carrier. I have just barely learned today, about this case with Skepticon, while I was looking into maybe trying to buy a ticket to the next one. I however, was only going to buy a ticket in hopes you were speaking. I will not bother now that I see you have been banned. I hope you know that there are people on your side. There are still women in this world who are not feminists, nor support the movement. That is really what all of this boils down too, complainers needing complaints. I do dare to blame this, for the most part, on Feminism. People always need someone to blame when they feel they have been wronged. Or even if they personally, have not been wronged. No one is looking inward, asking themselves what they can do to change their reaction to the problem, instead attempting to ruin someone or slander their character o make themselves feel better. Happiness is found inside of ourselves, its not something that you have create out of madness.. it is in fact already here, all around us.

I do hope that you have not felt completely ruined, by ignorant, most incompetent, character assassination attempts. You are one of the most smart, relatable, bright human beings I have found during my research; and to be honest, some people are jealous or hurt by humans like you. Especially when they feel they have been rejected.. and in turn will jump on any train that sings the song of defamation towards that person. It is just unfortunate that we live in a time where companies, groups, governments, religious, and apathic cultures will do anything to make themselves seem.. “with it” or in your case “without it” just to save themselves from defamation, even if it has not been proven to be fact. How Ironic. What ever happened to Innocent until proven guilty? It does not exist in a case of a man sexually assaulting a woman.

It is extremely disappointing to me that a group of persons who hold an annual conference for free thinkers like Skepticon.. would play into this. It makes me question the motive behind it all. It makes me distrustful and un-easy by the thought them.

Know you are loved by many. Remember you are smart. Remember WHO you are. Remember what you DO. You are a truth speaker. You present facts. I do not see any reason why your skills in your work do not overlap into your personal life. It does not make sense to me.. but I also do not know you personally. I do know America, and I do see what is going these past few years. Sadly you are just one of many people this same thing is happening too. Where will the line be drawn if people like you do not fight back, where it counts. You work is important in so many different ways. The way that you carry out your work even teaches people how to critically think; how to find fact in a hurricane of lies and historical prevarication. Even if you cannot convince a person to completely renounce Jesus, you have planted a seed of “discovery how to” a pamphlet of instructions on how to dive deep into your personal questions and answers quest, showing how important it is to look at all sides of things. You help open wide, the narrow minds of the seekers who find you.

Thank you. Love and Light.
-Sonder Thoughts.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-25617 Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:57:42 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-25617 Update: As of now the defendants have asserted there are six “accusers.” One is a person they never spoke to and who has never issued any complaint about me (the defendants are merely citing an account of a learning experience I myself wrote about years ago; that person hasn’t accused me of anything). Another is someone supposedly saying something about my behavior at a private party; the defense still refuses to supply any details. Another is someone I stayed with and politely propositioned and then politely took no for an answer and never brought it up again (there was no harassment or coercion). And the other three are those I already discuss in this article: Lauren Lane, Heina Dadabhoy, and Amy Frank.

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By: Bill Ligertwood https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-17423 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 15:19:51 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-17423 I haven’t been a party to any of this but I can say that as the organizer if the Imagine No Religion conferences, and having had Richard as a speaker, this episode has unfortunately become the norm. Our conference has never had even one such complaint in 6 years but that doesn’t seem to matter to these folks. They continue to make outrageous statements on social media and last year went so far as to suggest a boycott of our event because Michael Shermer was a speaker. It seems that you have now been targeted by the same gang. No concern for the truth and certainly no concern for any evidence. When I asked for any evidence that anything like this has ever happened at INR the response was, “we’ve heard some things”. I went to great lengths to investigate on my own the charges against Shermer and I have to say that most if not all of them were based on nothing but hearsay and innuendo. The most serious allegation against him, rape, has so little credibility it strains the boundaries of credulity. This continuous and outrageous behaviour has made being involved in this movement and trying to organize a conference something that I wouldn’t suggest anyone get involved in at any level. It has made it difficult to get any male speakers because apparently all it takes is one groundless accusation and your career is over. So now it’s your turn Richard and I can only say that I hope in the future you will apply the same concerns to others that you want us to apply to you. I would have no hesitation in inviting you to speak at our conference again, and I can only hope that your response will evoke some measure of concern among all of us who care about this movement. Skepticism and evidence should be the order of the day as opposed to what we have now which is just simply rumour and innuendo.

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By: August Berkshire https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-17422 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 15:11:10 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-17422 In reply to Richard Carrier.

Thank you. That answers my question.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-17421 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 13:40:43 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-17421 In reply to August Berkshire.

They both have statements on record that indicates that they engage in content control. And content control makes them liable, in the same fashion as, for example, the New York Times. The mere fact that FtB suspended my account demonstrates they engage in content control, as does the fact that they have and deployed an ethics committee to decide who can continue blogging there; they are therefore legally equivalent to a newspaper, and not to, for example, Facebook or Patheos. The Orbit likewise states that it is an operating collective that coordinates its activity among its content providers, and their providers run the network, which evinces similar content control responsibility; they also no doubt have the equivalent of an ethics committee; likewise on departing FtB one of their stated goals to us was to have more control over the network and who blogs there and on what. So unless they are willing to commit perjury, they can’t claim they aren’t collectively responsible for their network’s content. Nor do I think they would honestly try that, since it contradicts their values to claim disinterest in whether their members use the network for defaming other persons.

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By: August Berkshire https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-17418 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 05:11:44 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-17418 I am not a patron but perhaps you’d like to post and answer this anyway. You have offered explanations for many things but not for the following. As a point of information, I do not understand what case you’d have against the FtB and Orbit networks. The networks do not employ the bloggers, nor is there an employed editor who makes the decision to publish the posts against you. They are self-published. It would seem to me that this is not comparable to the New York Times publishing something but rather akin to a private citizen making an accusation against you on a bus. You can’t sue the bus company, can you?

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By: Steven C Watson https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-17412 Sat, 30 Jul 2016 19:39:05 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-17412 In reply to Andrew.

Sad. I was half expecting things at FtB to unravel when folk began decamping to the likes of Patheos. I didn’t understand why the Orbit was set up, unless those who did wanted their own echo-chamber. You give people generous shout-outs and welcomes and you get this?

PZ I don’t understand at all, he should get all this especially considering how careful he was with the Shermer ‘grenade’ of a while back. Perhaps he just pussys around the so-called powerful and thinks it is okay to punch down or across.

Whatever; his blog seems very cliquish, prone to groupthink, hearing only what they want to hear, and an echo-chamber. Small, isolated groups seem to fall into this mode without noticing and you find them turning on their colleagues. A road bump happens and suddenly for no reason you can work out they haven’t got your back and indeed want to turn the knife.

Hopefully these parties will come to their senses sooner rather than later, cease and desist, retract and apologise, and you can move on.

Speaking of moving, I hope your relocation across country has gone well and wish you all the best in your new home.
TTFN

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By: Andrew https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10967#comment-17411 Sat, 30 Jul 2016 17:05:23 +0000 http://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=10967#comment-17411 Sorry you are going through all this. I cancelled my plans to attend Skepticon 9 this year and in the future until they have more ethical and honest leadership.

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