Comments on: Road School 201: 100,000 Miles of Weird Experience https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13439 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Mon, 02 Jan 2023 19:05:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13439#comment-25401 Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:45:15 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13439#comment-25401 In reply to raj.

But alas, we can’t attend to all escape route positions 100% of the time. It’s literally physically impossible (as we don’t have insect eyes surrounding our head).

So yes, try to keep zones clear. But also, know what to do when someone creeps into one before you have time to notice.

Also, when you can’t get them out of that zone (as happens a lot).

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By: raj https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13439#comment-25400 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:04:06 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13439#comment-25400 In reply to raj.

I think Roger Crew is conveying the same point I’m making. I didn’t see his reply before I posted my own.

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By: raj https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13439#comment-25399 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:56:43 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13439#comment-25399 Re. “As soon as something weird crops up, immediately maximize your attention and brain-ops”, I’d like to add that you really need to always make sure you have an escape route out of your lane. Always. As an example, I was one traveling on North I-405 in California where it meets up with US-101, heading west. This interchange dives under the 101 while turning to the left. There’s no way to know the speed of traffic on the 101, just around the curve. The traffic around me was going close to 50 through this curve when I suddenly found the cars in my lane completely stopped! There was no way I could break fast enough, however I already knew that nothing was to right. I knew that because I had already noted that I had an escape route from my lane. I instantly switched lanes and then had time to come to a stop in the other lane. Had I not already known that there was nothing to my right, I would have been in a serious accident and possibly dead. I didn’t have time to check before changing lanes. So, always make sure you have an escape route!

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13439#comment-25398 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:18:43 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13439#comment-25398 In reply to Roger Crew.

That’s all spot on. But alas, sometimes people creep into the zone before you notice it.

You can’t count on always being in perfect position. So you need to plan on what to do when you aren’t.

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By: Roger Crew https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13439#comment-25394 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:29:17 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13439#comment-25394 An annoying driver is matching my speed and position in the lane to my right, so I can’t just change lanes.

Um…, so,… that right there is arguably a Defensive Driving Fail.

NEVER drive in formation: You have buffer zones to your left and right and you do whatever it takes to keep them empty so that you can swerve into them if you need to. (yes, there are urban rush-hour situations where this is clearly impossible, but the situation you described where you had lots of open space behind you was evidently not one of these)

If someone insists on pacing you, then it’s up to you to break things up; go a Different Speed for at least a short time, which then means you have a decision to make: Pass With Honor vs. Let ‘Em Go. And if you’ve been paying attention, learning the personalities of the cars around you, or at the very least keeping track of whether this is somebody who’s caught up with you vs. somebody who you’ve caught up with, the decision will usually be obvious.

Pass With Honor means if you’re going to pass somebody, then you just do it, and get it over with as quickly as possible, and put a bit of distance between you. An extended period of creeping by someone at a 1-2mph differential due to fear of going over the limit is generally WAY worse than a BRIEF stint of going the 10-15 over the limit — precisely because the former allows way too much opportunity for dead chickens and other shit to ruin your day.

(yes, there exist drivers’ ed courses that teach the exact opposite of this; they are simply wrong. And yes, if a cop happens to be watching the moment you make your move, then you’re just Screwed, but this is, or at least should be, statistically very unlikely — if it’s not statistically unlikely for you, then you’re driving too fast/aggressively).

Let ‘Em Go is the converse of this, in which your #1 job is to get them in front of you as expediently as possible… and this is often the Right Thing — if they’re generally going faster than you, then they’ll disappear soon enough, and if not, then you’ll have this nice Radar Shield that’ll last for a while.

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By: Marc Miller https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13439#comment-25392 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:19:29 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13439#comment-25392 Dr. Carrier, AKA Tom Bodett, I also have spent a lot of time on the road. I am a machinery mechanic, and worked six years of my career out of a big bright red Peterbilt service truck, with a large crane, welder, work bed, and all the goodies that extend a mechanic’s penis. I have tons of stories, that my current coworkers are tired of hearing, so I will victimize you…with just one.

I was driving north on I-95 south of Philly one morning, minding my own business, doing about 65mph in the right lane, listening to Howard Stern, when somebody rear ended me so hard that it pushed me ahead violently! I looked out my back window and see an SUV swerving all over the road, front end smashed to hell.

I pull over, and he pulls behind me. A well dress yuppie type of guy gets out and starts apologizing, and saying he fell asleep… He had to be doing over 80mph to push me so hard. I look at his new SUV. The hood was smashed up so you couldn’t see out of the window, his coolant was running out all over the highway, and the entire front end was a mess. I look at my tailgate, which was a steel work platform with a vise mounted to it…there wasn’t even a scratch in my paint!

About this time, a woman stumbles out of the passenger side, bleeding profusely from the face, so much so that the whole front of her blouse was soaked in blood. I immediately went for my phone to call medical help. But the guy insisted that I didn’t, in between screaming at her to get back in the vehicle!

It became obvious that he had no interest in having the authorities involved… So I took another look at my tailgate, and said have a nice day… As I was driving away, I could see him trying to make his way along the guard rail to the next exit, and wondered if he’d make it before his engine seized up.

Lesson: You meet some really fucked up people on the road.

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