Comments on: All I Want for My Birthday Are More Patreon Patrons! https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Sun, 26 Jun 2022 21:47:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31909 Sat, 16 Jan 2021 23:22:29 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31909 In reply to Richard Stokes.

Yes. OHJ has a scripture index. You can use that to find all discussions of any specific passage. And “temple” is also in the subject index. If you cross reference those two you can find the page that discusses this.

Your analogy doesn’t hold because Judea wasn’t a humanist democracy. The temple battalion would have rained death on masses of people without compunction. It would be more analogous if (a) a battalion of National Guard were stationed in the Capitol and (b) it were run by remorseless killers with no respect for public assemblies even of a peaceful kind.

Needless to say, were (a) and (b) true January 6, the Capitol assault would have turned out with exactly the contrary outcome. And that’s even with thousands of people; there is no evidence any such group ever invaded the Temple, led by Jesus or otherwise, yet Josephus surely would have recorded such an incredible incident, and Romans surely would not have forgotten it every time they even mentioned Christians.

The Gospels depict it as Jesus a lone man even. So already you have to conclude that is fiction. If you then invent a version of events nowhere recorded, just to get it to be barely possible, you end up with too improbable an outcome to credit: a successful proto-Christian military assault on a heavily-defended fortress that no one recorded—not the Gospels, nor even the historian who dedicated dozens of volumes to recording exactly such things, nor any Roman historian who could not have overlooked it.

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By: Richard Stokes https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31904 Fri, 15 Jan 2021 16:09:00 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31904 I own a paperback copy of your earlier work on The Historicity of Jesus. Do you discuss the plausibility of Jesus confronting the moneylenders on the Temple grounds? I can’t find the reference in your book. I’m assuming you think this is a fictitious incident. And, I recall, several scholars believe that a small band of protesters would have been quickly overcome by the Temple Guards (Armed Romans?). But the recent incident in Washington where a horde of mainly unarmed protestors took over the Capitol has made me reconsider this. Most commentators would have said this 2021 event was impossible, given the paper strength of the defending police battalion. Yet it was achieved and the defenders were taken by surprise. Now admittedly the incidents are very different, but my point is that assigning probabilities to past events becomes very subjective. Unusual things do happen, I’m suggesting that the Temple Incident would not necessarily have provoked a lethal reaction from those guarding it.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31847 Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:17:17 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31847 In reply to Tyler Esch.

Yes. I do get royalties on Nook.

And JFOS is most definitely on Nook.

(Though not all my books are.)

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By: Tyler Esch https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31837 Tue, 29 Dec 2020 00:34:16 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31837 Regarding your book, JFOS, it sadly isn’t showing on nook :(. Out of curiosity, do you get royalties from nook books?

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31821 Sat, 26 Dec 2020 17:35:40 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31821 In reply to Alif.

I also cover the intersection of morality and art in my section on aesthetics in Sense and Goodness without God. And for an example of extending the general points there to specific domains, see my article on Sexual Objectification in art or speech.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31820 Sat, 26 Dec 2020 17:30:35 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31820 In reply to Alif.

Depends on what you mean here by “moral.” Morally permissible, morally enjoyable, sure. Morally obligatory, no.

Remember you can use the search box at the upper right here. There is also a category dropdown menu a few beats down that same margin, and one of the categories you will find there is “music.”

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By: Alif https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31818 Sat, 26 Dec 2020 01:28:55 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31818 In reply to Richard Carrier.

what’s your favourite hymn then?

I take it you hold all music or art to be ‘moral’?

(Grateful if you’d point me towards anything you’ve written on aesthetics/music and its any moral aspects.
Perhaps music was not a little part of Roman curricula?)

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31805 Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:37:10 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31805 In reply to ou812invu.

I don’t do trees in my own place when I’m by myself; but I put up the tree for my parents, and celebrated there.

I actually like almost all things Christmas. See my article on that: The Real War on Christmas: The Fact That Christmas Is Better Than Christ.

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By: ou812invu https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31799 Wed, 23 Dec 2020 04:08:51 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31799 Did you put up a Christmas Tree?

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17439#comment-31789 Mon, 21 Dec 2020 03:53:28 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17439#comment-31789 In reply to Will.

Probably genetics. I do live a healthier life than the average American. But no healthier than the average European.

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