Comments on: PIPA, SOPA, NOPA! https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/192 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Tue, 02 Jun 2026 20:45:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: Jon of Brisbane https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/192#comment-794 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:02:54 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=192#comment-794 Even us non-US citizens were up in arms about this due to the possibility of internet over-lord-ship from the MAFIAA. So how did we do it? http://americancensorship.org/ itself had (note “had” as in past simple) a link whereby us international EngRish speakers could protest. And we did. I posted it to as many friend as possible, and I don’t have many friends. But reddit.com helped spread the word, too.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/192#comment-793 Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:50:09 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=192#comment-793 In reply to slc1.

sic1: Given that the Justice Department was able to shut down the file sharing service Megaupload yesterday and have several of its executives arrested on sispicion of piracy would seem to indicate that this legislation is superfluous.

The difference is that that followed a properly-sought formal indictment for criminal activity and thus observed due process. SOPA and PIPA would allow the government to do that without any due process (they also eliminate existing safe harbor laws and other protections). So, worse.

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By: slc1 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/192#comment-792 Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:24:15 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=192#comment-792 Given that the Justice Department was able to shut down the file sharing service Megaupload yesterday and have several of its executives arrested on sispicion of piracy would seem to indicate that this legislation is superfluous.

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By: F https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/192#comment-791 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:22:11 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=192#comment-791

Marta Evry, whose livelihood is threatened by overseas media piracy

Ah, the actual sort of piracy. Whether in digital-only media for sale or in physical goods, this should be addressed. Not that I really imagine additional legislation will help. Enforcement could be better, but certainly can be difficult in the best circumstances. Seizing domain names is not the way to do it. DMCA is bad enough, and overly abused (with impunity) by copyright trolls.

However, most online copyright infringement doesn’t cost content producers anything (not that I endorse it), and in fact, has been shown to promote the content and increase sales. The scary statistics about online piracy costing revenue and jobs have been debunked repeatedly, but certain commercial entities and politicians just keep repeating the same “facts” anyway.

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By: Rike https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/192#comment-790 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:12:27 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=192#comment-790 Thank you! That was a big help!

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