Comments on: Chris Hansen on Jesus from Outer Space https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Fri, 01 Aug 2025 17:41:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: Dave Allen https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-41265 Fri, 01 Aug 2025 17:41:19 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-41265 I feel sorry for anyone who has dealings with the slanderous troll. Of late she has fallen out with all the podcasters, due to some slander she made against one of them. This shows she just peddles dirty tactics against anybody who disagrees with her. Is that a sign of a scholar- she can’t handle alternative views. Mostly everybody knows of her fall out with me although due to pressure has now withdrawn all her slanderous posts on me. Sorry you had to put up with this troll- all the best- Dave.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-38359 Fri, 05 Jul 2024 13:21:43 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-38359 In reply to Mario Pendic.

I will next week.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-38353 Wed, 03 Jul 2024 22:07:49 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-38353 In reply to Mario Pendic.

Not yet.

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By: Mario Pendic https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-38352 Wed, 03 Jul 2024 21:38:10 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-38352 In reply to Richard Carrier.

Hansen and gregor have submitted another review of your methods of Jesus historicity. Have you looked at it?

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-37890 Mon, 06 May 2024 22:22:01 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-37890 In reply to Bill.

I’m not sure what this in aid of. You should link to where you are reading this so I understand what it relates to.

First of all, Jacob is Israel: those names belong to the same person. So how would a different reading on that even matter? And what does it matter to?

Secondly, I have not checked the dispute you are referencing, but I am familiar with a different dispute about those same verses: whether the phrase “sons of Israel” originally read “sons of God” (it probably did) or even in fact “angels of God” (that’s likely a variant).

Which would render the Israel/Jacob dispute irrelevant.

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By: Bill https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-37887 Sun, 05 May 2024 05:28:56 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-37887 This is off topic but (and I already sent this question in to a professor at a university who so far as not responded) I read in one of Hansen’s reddit posts that “Israel” was not originally in Deuteronomy 32:8-9 but rather “jacob”. Hansen claims that this is supported by LXX and DSS, but DSS has variant readings already and (if I am not mistaken?) those other readings were rejected as the “original” ones, so why think otherwise in this case? Also, how old is our earliest MSS of the LXX anyway compared to the Masoretic MSS? Hansen also claims the “Israel” reading in the Samaritan Pentateuch is likewise a later reading but how old are the MSS of the SP compared to LXX that Hansen cites? Thanks!

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-36728 Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:43:01 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-36728 In reply to Jonathan Sobieski.

Your analysis of that would be welcome here. Since I am not interested in Dutch Radicalism, I haven’t spent any time on that article. But just because I agree with her conclusion, doesn’t mean I would agree with how she arrives at it. If you picked the clearest cases of her being disingenuous or dishonest there, it could help add to the database of trends in her behavior.

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By: Jonathan Sobieski https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-36716 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 02:24:49 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-36716 I was just reading a journal article by Hansen (the reason I found your article), and it leaves no doubt that you’re right that he is being dishonest here.

The article was arguing against the view of New Dutch Radicals that Paul did not exist (I was looking for arguments for/against Paul’s existence), and Hansen makes more than enough good points to demonstrate that he is capable of complex reasoning, and he can clearly carefully double check esoteric evidence and sources if he wants to, but even there he was not giving a thorough or fair presentation of the arguments of the people he is trying to debunk, and he was cherry picking arguments claiming they are representative of everything else and presenting his case as won.

https://www.biblicaltheology.com/Research/HansenCM02.pdf

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By: martenvandijk https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-34868 Tue, 09 Aug 2022 09:44:18 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-34868 “To try and fool others is bad, to try and fool oneself is stupid” (Pendapat Saya)

Hansen is not just moronic.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21145#comment-34866 Sun, 31 Jul 2022 23:03:09 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=21145#comment-34866 In reply to Juan (John) Manuel Pedraza.

Thank you. Would love that. If you ever get together funding for a lecture or pubmeet I can do out there let me know.

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