Comments on: The Carrier-Wilson Debate in Nashville: Christianity Or Secular Humanism, Which Is Best for Society? https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:17:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41514 Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:17:32 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41514 In reply to Zimpy.

No.

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By: Zimpy https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41513 Tue, 26 Aug 2025 22:02:35 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41513 “secular humanism” Do you mean Judeo-Masonic morality?

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41509 Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:41:47 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41509 In reply to B.

That’s up to Modern Day Debate. And even if they choose to publish this one, they are likely to moratorium the video, and not post it for months or a year, to ensure attendance at the live event.

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By: db https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41505 Mon, 25 Aug 2025 07:02:15 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41505 In reply to Richard Carrier.

[text too much resembling AI generated content is here being deleted as promised—ed.]

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By: B https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41504 Mon, 25 Aug 2025 03:10:23 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41504 Please tell me this is going to be recorded and posted online…

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41503 Sun, 24 Aug 2025 17:24:37 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41503 In reply to bananashyfca78920eb.

That’s just some guy with thoughts. Not formal academic philosophy.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41501 Sun, 24 Aug 2025 15:37:12 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41501 In reply to db.

I don’t understand the relevance of any of this.

And it looks suspiciously like AI-generated content, which is banned here.

I need you to stop posting things that look like this. Make it clear that you are writing coherent sentences and a flow of argument, not bullet lists that look randomly collected from a chat prompt.

I will be deleting comments that continue to look like AI.

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By: db https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41496 Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:54:52 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41496 If you do the same. Ask Wilson to publish a pre-debate multi-faceted psychometric battery of tests that measure foundational personality traits, specific ideological attitudes, and core moral principles.

The Five-Factor Model, or Big Five, is a consistent predictor of worldview orientation
1. Openness to Experience
2. Conscientiousness
3. Extraversion
4. Agreeableness
5. Neuroticism

The HEXACO model adds Honesty-Humility

The Dual-Process Motivational (DPM) Model centers on Right-Wing Authoritarianism (RWA) and Social Dominance Orientation (SDO)

Psychological Constructs and Their Associations with Political Ideology

Openness to Experience
Conscientiousness
Moral Foundations
Care/Harm
Fairness/Cheating
Loyalty/Betrayal
Authority/Subversion
Sanctity/Degradation
Cognitive Style
Need for Cognitive Closure
Intolerance of Ambiguity

Given two disparate worldview groups A and B. And with the goal of differentiating the psychological and personality profiles of the given groups by clarifying the underlying psychological, cognitive, and moral mechanisms that predispose each groups worldview.

For Example:

i Hypothetical score for an A Devotee
ii Hypothetical score for an B Devotee
iii Rationale/Psychological Implication

HEXACO Inventory
i High Openness to Experience; High Honesty-Humility; Low Conscientiousness
ii High Conscientiousness; Low Openness to Experience; Low Honesty-Humility
iii Measures a fundamental preference for novelty, complexity, and fairness versus a preference for order, tradition, and self-control.

Social Dominance Orientation (SDO)
i Low Score
ii High Score
iii Assesses a desire for group-based equality versus a preference for social hierarchy and dominance.

Right-Wing Authoritarianism (RWA)
i Low Score
ii High Score
iii Reflects a worldview driven by a fear of threats to social order, leading to a need for authority and convention.

Moral Foundations Questionnaire (MFQ)
i Higher scores on Care/Harm and Fairness/Cheating; Lower scores on Loyalty/Betrayal, Authority/Subversion, and Sanctity/Degradation
ii More balanced scores across all five foundations; Higher scores on Loyalty/Betrayal, Authority/Subversion, and Sanctity/Degradation
iii Illuminates the underlying moral architecture, explaining why certain arguments or values may resonate with one group and not the other.

N.B. research highlights the importance of gene-environment interaction, where the effects of genetic predispositions are modulated by external factors. The social environment, including family, upbringing, and media exposure, plays a significant role in shaping an individual’s beliefs. Personal experiences, such as economic hardship or social injustice, can also profoundly mold worldviews.

An individual’s worldview can evolve in response to new information, personal experiences, and social dynamics.

Childhood nutrition and other factors affect IQ.

Lower cognitive ability is associated with a potential greater belief in misinformation programs, difficulty with analytical thinking, difficulty with corrections.

Higher cognitive ability is associated with a potential tendency to process information in a way that aligns with pre-existing beliefs, identities, and political affiliations. In other words, people—regardless of their intelligence—are more likely to believe and share information that supports their political group and to reject information that contradicts it. They can construct elaborate arguments to defend their misbeliefs, making them highly resistant to correction.

Other Factors
Education
Media consumption
Etc.

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By: Be Logical https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41477 Tue, 19 Aug 2025 17:50:45 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41477 Wow! I can’t believe this will happen! I’ve recently watched your debate with Joel McDurmon and I was thinking about you debating Wilson. I even thought about messaging him to make this suggestion. That’s great! I’m eager to watch it!

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37437#comment-41474 Tue, 19 Aug 2025 15:40:39 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37437#comment-41474 In reply to db.

You mean to link to this page.

Do you have an assessment of the use or value of that page?

(i.e. it’s just a catalog of videos; so, are they worth watching at all?)

As for Wilson being a self-described fascist, I already know that, of course.

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