Comments on: Speaking in Atlanta This Sunday … and Tabling in Huntsville This October https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/44099 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:25:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/44099#comment-45213 Tue, 08 Sep 2026 14:25:51 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=44099#comment-45213 In reply to Benito de las colinas.

Yes, I do concur with all your points here.

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By: Benito de las colinas https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/44099#comment-45212 Tue, 08 Sep 2026 11:58:37 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=44099#comment-45212 Would you say that a disproportionate amount of the people who take mythicism seriously are from outside the US?

I have wondered if the hysteria about mythicism is related to the fact that Christians still have a lot of influence in US academia (and in turn on the ways of thinking of academics trained by Christian) and society generally, whereas in Europe, it’s much less common, most European countries, apart from maybe Poland and Hungary, haven’t been majority Christian for decades.

To me, the biggest pieces of evidence that there needs to be a paradigm shift, is the way Dennis Macdonald’s work has been treated, the way your and Lataster’s work has been treated and the way Brodie was treated. It’s the same kind of dismissiveness and vindictiveness over the idea that the “guild” could actually be wrong.

I think a good illustration is this debate between Goodacre and Ehrman on whether the Gospel of John used the Synoptics (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REXnpEy8T_I). Ehrman does a lot of rhetorical tricks, i.e he tries to minimise the evidence from agreement between Mark and the Gospels (he knows perfectly well Goodacre´s case is way stronger than a couple of words here or there).

It also shows very well the dreaded “appeal to oral lore”, Ehrman makes a big fallacy at the start by saying “well, if you have two students that have similar texts in structure, argument and word choice, then it’s clearly a case of copying, but if you have the odd sentence structure here or there but they are substantially different, you wouldn´t conclude there was copying”. It’s not an apt comparison for a few reasons, for starters there are significant similarities, i.e the passion narrative and the other gospels all have it, the fact that there are differences doesn’t rule out influence at all. Secondly, we don’t know that much about the oral lore that may or may not have existed about Jesus, but we certainly do know the Gospels existed and have elements in common, so it’s more probable that John is getting any similarities from the Gospels themselves.

I think academic fields go wrong when they care more about defending assumptions and people’s reputations (wrongly imo, someone like Ehrman would still be considered an important scholar even if mythicism was discovered to be true) above anything else.

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By: mh bl https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/44099#comment-45207 Mon, 07 Sep 2026 18:50:41 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=44099#comment-45207 In reply to Ben Abelow.

Good idea!

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By: Ben Abelow https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/44099#comment-45201 Mon, 07 Sep 2026 14:40:37 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=44099#comment-45201 What time will the talk / livestream be? Please try to make a video available after the fact, in case I (and others) can’t make it in real time. Thanks.

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By: Sandra Rebelo https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/44099#comment-45200 Mon, 07 Sep 2026 14:40:09 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=44099#comment-45200 I would love to meet a researcher who shares a similar point of view to mine.

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