Yep. We have the modern free speech and free religion rights we have thanks to leftists, journalists and some courageous Christians.

Oh, I don’t think you explained yourself badly, and to be fair I would need to actually see the content you are discussing because it is wholly possible they framed the issue badly in a way that your criticism applies to.

My point is just that Brexit needs to be viewed as a localized fascist phenomenon, in line with Euroskepticism which is of course omnipresent among fascists (back during Brexit I was talking to American Nazis who just parroted all the nonsense). The challenge Britain has is that it is relatively conservative and so, while its fascist tendencies can seem softer in some regards because they are more institutional, it also means that the fascist tendencies go deeper. That having been said, the fact that the Tories never are tolerably racist for the far-right and the far-right need to make an endless carousel of new parties with repeated electoral viability challenges is a good sign.

I suspect that what may be going on (and I think you alluded to this in the other thread) is that British culture views the ugliest fascism as gauche and low-class.

Oh, it’s not bizarre.

As you yourself have said:

If there is a Nazi, there is a liar.

He will quote mine endlessly because he has been given his marching orders.

Goosestep somewhere else, little Nazi. You flounced here.

Because the ‘statistical adjustment’ is not sufficient, and because ‘need further explanation’ is not an excuse to make up racist bullshit. For example: you cannot statistically control for overrepresentation in conviction and detection, nor for bias. (Yes, people are biased in who they anonymously report victimized them. This is a problem with FBI race data too, that the FBI is aware of).

You’re trying a God of the gaps argument to liberals with no direct evidence of your hypothesis and vast evidence against. Again, Steinberg: the explanations for cultural differences are overwhelmingly socioeconomic.

Immigrants commit less crime on average. Why are you not assuming that to be accurate and trying to find another explanation? Right, because you’re a bigot.

Yes, but the performance always starts in the mirror.

And, of course, I too am performing.

Yes, John. because it became useful to fake free markets. The anti immigration sentiment serves as the carrot to go with the stick. Fascists pretend that they are anti elite, but their hate serves to exploit migrants and split the middle class.

Please think for a moment how it helps the poor to be less able to flee bad conditions, seek the best work and the best housing.

And also think about how people can flee if everyone uses the same immigration restrictions.

Solidarity is the only solution.

Agreed, Benito and Kaltrop. But it is also helpful exactly for that to see when the mask falls. The fact that people like Jay exist and look normal until exposed shows how common even overt bias is. Which makes why biases are omnipresent in these systems clear.

Yep. It’s an old game designed exactly the way all passive-aggressive bullying is designed: identify social affordances and freeriding off them.

I am uninterested in your attempts to change the subject, as I already explained.

You made a false inference and statement, you were refuted, and now you have nothing left to do but pretend that didn’t happen like a cat that just ran into a glass door.

This is funny. But it’s also wasting everyone’s time here.