Comments on: Ammon Hillman Is Not Telling You the Truth: The Gospels Do Not Describe Pedophilia, and No One Was Getting High on Vaginas https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Sun, 22 Feb 2026 23:25:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43383 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 23:25:27 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43383 In reply to AinAemAet.

Triangulation isn’t manipulation. It’s detection.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43382 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 23:24:50 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43382 In reply to AinAemAet.

He’s a proven liar. So yes. We can distrust everything he says. He is simply not a reliable operator and you should know that by now.

The use of bodily fluids in ancient magic has nothing to do with Jesus or the Gospels.

And Hillman had ample time to speak in his debate with Gorton, and has since.

So you are evidently just spinning apologetics.

To test whether you are not secretly Ammon acting under a sock puppet, tell me the number of the “Avenue” your terminal address is on or nearest (presumably your house or office in Alberta). If you cannot identify it, or if you admit you are not posting from Canada, then I know you are running a VPN to fake your IP address, which is evidence you are trying to con people here.

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By: AinAemAet https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43378 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 20:11:04 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43378 In reply to Ali Rowan.

Yet the people discrediting him repeatedly resort to triangulation, and other manipulations – but are not the narcissists?

Telling.

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By: AinAemAet https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43377 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 20:09:57 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43377 Not saying I believe Hillman is right on all fronts, but I don’t think you can discredit everything he says so easily, especially given that we have found artifacts that corroborate, at the very least, the idea that vaginal secretions and other bodily fluids were used in the ritual of those times – and the fact that you seem completely unwilling to put even half of what he claims to serious consideration makes me wonder if there isn’t an ulterior motive at play.

As for Luke…

It is my opinion that Luke Gorton is a pretentious weasel. Regardless of who is right or not, during their DJ debate, Luke did little more than try to babble over and discredit Hillman not by merit of knowledge, but by merit of ‘making him look foolish’ – immediately making Gorton look like a self-righteous jack**s to anybody who actually cares about letting the argument be made.

Throughout the length of the episode, every time Hillman was given a chance to talk, Gorton would immediately discredit his words without letting him finish – and by the 3rd quarter of the podcast it had gotten so bad that each time Hillman opened his mouth Gorton would attempt to use (often successfully) Danny in triangulating against Hillman – without hearing half of what Hillman had to say in trying to explain himself.

I’d like to point out that not being very good at debating does not mean that the given perspective of the apparent master debater (Gorton in this case), who achieves his rather pyrrhic victory through ad-hominem attack, triangulation and other manipulations in order to make their opposition look incredulous – is correct.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43376 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:46:19 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43376 In reply to Brian Stockton.

I’m sorry, I do not understand what your argument is, or what you are responding to.

There is no homo/pedo behavior in the New Testament.

There is Marxism. But in no connection to pedophilia. Or even sex.

What any of this has to do with antisemitism or even Jews really is unclear. You aren’t making any sense.

Christianity’s communism was fringe, not normative Judaism, so it wasn’t especially Jewish. Nor antisemitic. Even if it were true, and even if it were not. It’s probably a myth; utopian myths were popular “among the people” at the time, among Jews and pagans, including other counter-culturalists like the Cynics, who were essentially the version of this the pagans had, while Qumran was the earlier version among the Jews. But I don’t see any way to connect any of that with modern fabrications about Jesus being a pedophile.

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By: Brian Stockton https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43370 Sat, 21 Feb 2026 18:20:05 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43370 Dude I get you don’t want to come off as antisemitic.if point A is the Bible the origins of these claims and homo/pedo behavior Jesus was clearly some kinda of Marxist proto communist. Point B is thousands of antisemitic claims throughout history it doesn’t matter if they true thy exist. Point c is we have those very people leading lgbt activities doing these very types of behaviors. A basic question is that hard to believe Jesus behavior is really that different?

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43314 Mon, 16 Feb 2026 17:03:16 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43314 In reply to Angelia Zerbinski.

Thank you. That adds valuable context. And helpful links and perspective.

Anyone researching him should account for that data as well.

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By: Angelia Zerbinski https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43304 Sun, 15 Feb 2026 23:57:51 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43304 Hi Dr. Carrier. I have written an article in which I cited this one. Hope that’s ok!

https://medium.com/@angeliazerbinski/your-greed-stains-your-soul-with-the-stench-of-ruin-the-licentiousness-of-dr-david-hillman-c93535d42484

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43296 Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:35:09 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43296 In reply to Leonidas Demetris Koronis Romanos.

Indeed. Though I am not sure it’s incompetence. Yes, that’s one way to explain it. Another way is that he well knows everything you just said and is lying about everything. And I think there is enough evidence in my analysis to weigh in favor of that conclusion. I personally think Hillman is a con artist who is lying to the public, to get attention and push his personal perversions. He’s doing this because he likes it. Not because it’s true.

A third possibility is that he is insane, and thus holds contradictory beliefs from one moment to the next, such that he literally “forgets” that he knows what you are saying as soon as his delusion needs him to. Like flat earthers who know all the truth about astronomy and physics, but temporarily forget every fact they have to the moment they need to in order to defend their belief in a flat earth, and then re-remember those facts when it is safe to.

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By: Leonidas Demetris Koronis Romanos https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/37056#comment-43281 Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:52:22 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=37056#comment-43281 Thanks for a well written scholarly article concerning this matter. As a Greek speaker, born and raised in a Greek speaking home, with various dialects (Macedonian and Aegean Dodecanese, as well as Smyrnaic), and educated and well read in Attic and Homeric (which is Ionic and Aeolic mostly), including Koine from church and the NT, and more formal Katharevousa, as well as the modern common Demotiki, I would have to say my Greek is pretty good. I also speak fluent Spanish, Italian and Sicilian dialect as well which give me a very good Latin base too. My point is that Greek is most certainly a very poetic language, but it is also a very word specific language. And although metaphorically speaking, words can be stretched in their actual meanings to mean something else, Greek is so expressive a language that choosing specific words to avoid any misunderstandings is paramount to its function. Take for example the fact that the word LOVE has as many as 9 different Greek counterparts. I think that should clarify things up to say the least in pointing out how important specifics and expression are in Greek. This guy Ammon sounds like some burnout druggy himself, whose Greek is horrible, no matter how much or how little he stretches the words to metaphorically or actually mean something else. As you stated, even a little kid who speaks Greek KNOWS sindon = sheet, gymnou = nudity, neaniskos = young man. This guy is one brain cell short of fried, which means he’s burnt!

Leonidas Demetris Koronis Romanos
Society of Panhellenic Romans

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